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Support for ARM64 (Windows 10/11) #2633
Description
Purpose of the issue
- Bug report (encountered problems/errors)
Version Information
Cmder v1.3.18
Windows 11 (21H2, build 22000.318), ARM edition
Description of the issue
I'm running Windows 11 in Parallels Desktop 17 as a VM. Once this is a newer generation Apple M1 laptop, it means ARM architecture, and hence, a very specific version of Windows 11 (i.e., for ARM devices).
Cmder doesn't run out of the box after installation. At first, it hangs, and then it crashes without and visible signs of error.
In the Event Log --> Application I can see an error related to a crash:
Faulting application name: cmd.exe, version: 10.0.22000.51, time stamp: 0x23fe19cb
Faulting module name: xtajit64.dll, version: 10.0.22000.120, time stamp: 0x4237ca8c
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x0000000000029968
Faulting process id: 0x1ed0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d7eae24fdb648d
Faulting application path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\cmd.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\xtajit64.dll
Report Id: 55911a84-5154-473c-9705-c79e1da12d4d
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Here's the window screenshot (not much use, but just to give you an idea):
What I tried:
I tried to use it in compatibility mode, but that just generates another type of error and the app is still unusable.
Please advice.
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daxgames commentedon Dec 6, 2021
ARM is not supported, at the moment.
command0r commentedon Dec 6, 2021
Good stuff. Is it not supported just now or the support is not even planned for the future editions?
DRSDavidSoft commentedon Dec 20, 2021
Edit: I wasn't aware of the minhook library issue when I wrote this, which ConEmu relies on.
@command0r It shouldn't be too hard to target M1 ARM and/or Raspberry Pi ARM Windows builds, both the launcher and ConEmu can be built for them.
I have a MacBook Pro running Parallels 17.5 and Windows 11, I'll see if I can make a port of Cmder to run on ARM64 builds.
N.b: It's not recommended to run x86_64 builds of Cmder on ARM.
chrisant996 commentedon Dec 20, 2021
@DRSDavidSoft have you read up on why an ARM version of ConEmu doesn't exist? The minhook library doesn't support ARM. Unless you have a solution for that, then it is currently impossible to build ConEmu for ARM.
DRSDavidSoft commentedon Dec 20, 2021
chrisant996 commentedon Dec 20, 2021
How so? Clink does not support ARM, either, for the same reason. No one seems to have implemented an IAT hooking implementation for ARM yet (not minhook, and not any alternative IAT hooking libraries).
(Btw, I'm the current Clink author.)
It's not just a matter of needing an ARM device or emulator to test on -- it's also a matter of analyzing the ARM assembly and identifying all the ways the API jumps can appear in assembly code, and handling all of them.
Detours may cause problems and incompatibilities between programs, and they may not be immediately obvious. Detours uses a very different hooking approach than IAT hooks. In Clink I tried using Detours, and it caused multiple incompatibilities and failures. I was forced to disable the use of Detours in Clink as it was impossible to make Clink function reliably/properly.
I recommend reading up on both IAT and Detours, and analyzing the differences very carefully. They are different beasts, and simply swapping one for the other is likely to cause compatibility problems and/or functionality problems.
What is needed is ARM support for IAT hooking. It's probably something I could get working if I had an ARM device + ARM assembly manuals + enough time and motivation. (I currently lack an ARM device/emulator, time, and motivation -- I assume that ARM assembly reference manuals can be found on the internet.)
DRSDavidSoft commentedon Dec 20, 2021
chrisant996 commentedon Dec 20, 2021
[-]Doesn't work in Windows 11[/-][+]Doesn't work in Windows 11 (ARM64)[/+]chrisant996 commentedon Feb 8, 2023
Clink supports ARM64 since v1.4.7, so that part is covered now.
IAT hooking is the same for x64 and ARM64, so ConEmu could use Detours for any minhook-style jmp hooking, and the same IAT hooking as usual for any IAT hooking.
[-]Doesn't work in Windows 11 (ARM64)[/-][+]Support for ARM64 (Windows 10/11)[/+]bogdanbabos commentedon Jul 15, 2024
@Maximus5 no hope of porting to Windows ARM64 is there?
GulinSS commentedon Feb 2, 2025
Hello from 2025! ARM64? 😄
DRSDavidSoft commentedon Feb 2, 2025
@GulinSS Currently, Cmder is mostly working on ARM64, the only missing piece is some of the injection utilities in ConEmu.
I highly recommend using the Windows Terminal edition of Cmder for the best experience, the most important part of Cmder in clink, which already supports ARM64 quite awesomely 🎉 😄
The author of ConEmu doesn't seem to be responding right now, so to try out WT + Cmder, please follow our guide and provide your feedback. Thanks!
https://github.com/cmderdev/cmder/wiki/Seamless-Windows-Terminal-Integration